My latest little rant comes in the form of a new turbo system.

http://ststurbo.com/

Basically instead of mounting the turbo next to the exhaust ports they take it and mount it all the way in the back of the car. I think its a HORRIBLE idea because the exhaust tempurature and velocity at the end of the pipe ruin the effiency of the turbo and the lag must be absolutely out of this world.

I've seen these quite a few times. And their becoming popular on fbody's due to the tight engine bays.

I saw one that made crazy power. And was really efficient. I'll try to get you a link w/ details and dynograph.


Till then, http://thirdgen.org/techbb2/showthread.php...threadid=238864

This guys 89 cavalier z24 broke into the 13's at only 13psi (ran low 16's prior to turbo) with an inexperienced fwd driver and very minimal other mods. You can read the thread, nice improvement I say.

Awful idea. Can you say "lag"?

Hahaha the horrible lag acts as traction control

Here we go. read this thread. Many had to be convinced here.

http://genmay.net/showthread.php?t=444322

101hp gain from 5 psi on 2001 camaro. STS turbo.

Do you have compairison of a proper setup? And the dyno tells you nothing about lag either.

heres a better idea. move the turbo back there. then, move the whole ENGINE back there. imagine how sick that would be? rear engine turbo car?.....

What you say?

Comparisons tough to make or find. I'll say you can probably only get so far with one of these..

But they make an easy, and pretty well working solution.

On an Fbody for example to run a proper turbo, you need shorty headers to accomodate room in the engine bay while Long tube headers yield quite bigger gains as far as headers go on an LT1. So say you were to have the same setup with a proper setup, and then the rear mount they could be made pretty equal, until you push it past whatever point it becomes a real disadvantage.

But I mean for the gains I think it's a nice product. A simple 4 hour install, as opposed to tearing into an Fbody's engine bay. On smaller cars I could see this being not as good an option though. I'm not going to argue it's not perfect as their is already the first option that works better (tough to determine how much). But for an easy 100hp at low boost, I beleive the lags not that bad on this car, and it's a pretty cool idea.

Imagine that setup on a honda whole only moves 2 liters of air. Well if you're lucky.

Might be a nice little "niche" market product. I think on some cars like Forrest pointed out it would make sense, like the FBody mustangs

its interesting in the way those electrically driven superchargers are interesting... it will never be mainstream but it's a captivating idea nonetheless.

HAHAHAHA

Wow, amazing pic. Higher res of something like it?

I AM a dumbass

mustangs have REAL turbo kits

BURN

This is probably a really stupid question but i was wondering why there's lag with turbochargers and how this sepcific type increases the lag?

Who's burnt?
Fbodies have real turbo kits too. Aswell as TT kits.

Mustangs have remote mount turbo's? .... ..

A turbo has to spool up to produce the power. The time it takes for the turbine to spool is the lag, a bigger turbo is harder to spool up thus creating more lag.

Correction. The time it takes the turbo to pressurize the intake tubing is the lag.

Ahhh, i see now, so because this RMT is at far back of the car it takes a shitload of time to pressurize the intake tube.

i dont think so.

but there are plenty of Turbo and TT kits

listen to the Acceleration video of the LT1 camaro.
sooooo annoying.

that just does not look right! would not the filter get wet all the time?

Here is what they claim:
"By mounting the turbo remote under the vehicle, STS has eliminated the heat problem. A remote mounted turbo runs cooler, with no additional lag and requires no major modifications to your vehicle."

heh that just sounds too easy...

Thank you.

The idea sounds absolutely rediculous, but it works. *shrug*

Lag isn't nearly the issue you make it out to be, especially not when you have 5.7L worth of exhaust gasses spooling that turbo.

I think its laughable though that they're seeking Honda applications.

The ricers will buy it. Less work, less install time. (less money overall?)

Yes, Forrest, that's the joke. That's WHY he thinks it's funny

What in his post makes you think ricers is what he's laughing at. I thought he was still ripping on the company itself.

*sigh*

How is it that you can misunderstand everything, or at least appear to? I know he's ripping on the company, for going after a stereotype. I agree, it's stupid. I was merely backing that up because I thought YOU were letting the company off the hook and making fun of hondas.

I was trying to say the company was smart. Big sales there.

I love watching myself argue.