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nismo
http://www.bose.com/controller;jsessionid=...ension_componen
All pics of car on left are stock, ones on right have bose suspension system.







BoseŽ
Linear Electromagnetic Motor

The Bose linear electromagnetic motor offers easy two-point mounting. The only electrical connections to the motor are for power and control.


BoseŽ Suspension
Front Corner Module

The Bose suspension front corner module features simple strut and link construction.

The linear electromagnetic motor is used as a telescoping suspension strut along with a two-piece lower control arm.

A torsion bar spring connected to one end of the lower arm supports the weight of the vehicle.

The wheel damper keeps the tire from bouncing and losing contact with the road.



BoseŽ Suspension Front Module

The Bose suspension system uses a modular approach to replace the vehicle’s original front suspension unit. The Bose linear electromagnetic motors are used in a modified MacPherson strut type layout. The lower suspension arms and rack-and-pinion steering system attach to an aluminum engine cradle that bolts directly to the car body. Each front wheel is fully independent since no anti-roll bars are required.



BoseŽ Suspension Installation

The Bose suspension system installs easily into the front of the vehicle. A new engine cradle connects the front suspension to the car body using the original factory mounting hardware, creating a drop-in replacement module.





The Bose Suspension System

A linear electromagnetic motor is installed at each wheel of a Bose equipped vehicle. The control algorithms operate by observing sensor measurements taken from around the car and sending commands to the motors.
DakianDelomast
Sooooooo much maaaaaaaaaass
rtrn2sndr
Car & Driver had an editorial on this suspension...here's the scan.

(Sorry about the size, I had to keep it big so that it can be read)

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Dylan
Yeah, it is pretty amazing, but I'm guessing that it's not gonna be available for a while and when it is, it will be expensive.
tune
QUOTE(nismo @ Sep 19 2004, 11:37 AM)
All pics of car on left are stock, ones on right have bose suspension system.




WOW these suspensions can actually change the colour of your car!
AgaBoogaBoo
THAT is called research and when you ask some people why they always buy bose, it's because they maintain a certain level of quality everytime even if it isn't the best for the price or price range
fallon
wow, while this sounds great it also sounds expensive as sin
AgaBoogaBoo
QUOTE(fallon @ Sep 19 2004, 06:11 PM)
wow, while this sounds great it also sounds expensive as sin

The ideas that were implemented in this setup could be used for other products too, doesn't have to stay in this one product. When a company puts lots of money into research many times it will benefit more than one specific item
fallon
true. also, if multiple companies are allowed to purchase the idea, competition will help keep cost down
Viper007Bond
laugh.gif I came into this thread thinking there was going to be a suspension system that was made of speakers or that reacted to music or something since Bose is known for their sound systems.
Renesis
QUOTE(Viper007Bond @ Sep 19 2004, 07:39 PM)
laugh.gif I came into this thread thinking there was going to be a suspension system that was made of speakers or that reacted to music or something since Bose is known for their sound systems.

me too laugh.gif
Easton
I'd like to see a real track tester give it a whiz around the circuit first. dry.gif
Dario
That's pretty impressive stuff right there... GO BOSE!
porschedream
Super.
herkalees
It's nice to see them branching out into other fields, seeing as their speakers suck.
dukenukem
its a good effort but i would think it will be another 5 years before they can even think of putting it into production.
Talon-TSi
QUOTE(fallon @ Sep 19 2004, 03:11 PM)
wow, while this sounds great it also sounds expensive as sin

yes, but i wonder how they sound?


and are you stupid herkalees. Bose has GREAT sound. they pump out from a little 2 in speaker. better than a traditional book shelf...
herkalees
QUOTE(Talon-TSi @ Sep 19 2004, 10:55 PM)
yes, but i wonder how they sound?


and are you stupid herkalees.  Bose has GREAT sound.  they pump out from a little 2 in speaker.  better than a traditional book shelf...

Oooookay. No, I'm not stupid. In fact, when it comes to audio, I'm pretty damn well informed and trained. Tell me this, if bose were so good, why aren't they in any home theater editorials, movie theaters, etc?

They are "sooo good" because they are the only speaker company with tv commercials and print advertisements in every magazine printed, so they are a household name. B&W (for instance) could also be a household speaker name if they spent 50% of their profits on advertising (like bose), but they don't, they put their money back into making better speakers.

If you took one apart, like I have many many times, you'd see their build quality was absolute ass.

If you seriously think that 2" speaker "pumps" out a lot of sound, you might be right, if you also consider that the usually-passive-subwoofer helps too, but do they pump out ALL the sound? No, they lack a shit load of response in the mid range, because essentially, they are a tweeter and a subwoofer combo, made usually from paper cones and stuffed in plastic boxes... But they look so cute dont they?

Dismissed.
goldenjackal
http://home.earthlink.net/~busenitz/bs.html#NGRP

there are more, I'll post em when I find em.
fiber optic
QUOTE(herkalees @ Sep 20 2004, 12:12 AM)
you might be right, if you also consider that the usually-passive-subwoofer helps too, but do they pump out ALL the sound? No, they lack a shit load of response in the mid range, because essentially, they are a tweeter and a subwoofer combo

This isn't coherent. Could you rephrase it?
herkalees
QUOTE(fiber optic @ Sep 20 2004, 05:55 PM)
QUOTE(herkalees @ Sep 20 2004, 12:12 AM)

you might be right, if you also consider that the usually-passive-subwoofer helps too, but do they pump out ALL the sound? No, they lack a shit load of response in the mid range, because essentially, they are a tweeter and a subwoofer combo

This isn't coherent. Could you rephrase it?

Think of piano keys as an example; on one end you have all the low notes, on the other end you have all the high notes, and in the middle, there are the mid-range notes. The small 2" driver is too small to effectively play the musical notes that live in the "mid-range", and the subwoofer is tuned to be exactly that, a subwoofer, so it also doesn't reproduce the "mid-range" well either.

Bose has done a bunch of studies which have let them to believe "most people" don't notice the loss.

F them.
clarkma5
What I like about it is that it doesn't take up space for people/luggage (like the Praxis system)

It'd be interesting to know how much weight this adds...I wouldn't be surprised to find it isn't a whole lot, because it replaces the springs and shocks which are, let's face it, not lightweight.
fiber optic
QUOTE(herkalees @ Sep 20 2004, 06:06 PM)
Bose has done a bunch of studies which have let them to believe "most people" don't notice the loss.

Thanks. My old man has some Bose at his house and I didn't think they sounded too bad. huh.gif He also has that funky wave radio they advertise on TV and I love the way it sounds. I don't think I'd buy the speakers because they're too expensive however I could probably justify the cost for that wave radio.
tune
My mates next door neighbours bought a Bose system a while back, over 2G's worth and went out that same day, left the back door open and had the stuff stolen. Needless to say, they couldn't claim that back on insurance.
nismo
QUOTE(herkalees @ Sep 20 2004, 07:06 PM)
QUOTE(fiber optic @ Sep 20 2004, 05:55 PM)
QUOTE(herkalees @ Sep 20 2004, 12:12 AM)

you might be right, if you also consider that the usually-passive-subwoofer helps too, but do they pump out ALL the sound? No, they lack a shit load of response in the mid range, because essentially, they are a tweeter and a subwoofer combo

This isn't coherent. Could you rephrase it?

Think of piano keys as an example; on one end you have all the low notes, on the other end you have all the high notes, and in the middle, there are the mid-range notes. The small 2" driver is too small to effectively play the musical notes that live in the "mid-range", and the subwoofer is tuned to be exactly that, a subwoofer, so it also doesn't reproduce the "mid-range" well either.

Bose has done a bunch of studies which have let them to believe "most people" don't notice the loss.

F them.

Herculees, I have blown pictures off the walls (well not blown, but rattled) with the system, and i friggin love it. Why all the probs with bose? They can make a 2 in 1 tweeter, if it sounds better, i dont give a shit. We spent well enough on both the systems, and the only other we would think of getting are Nakimichi. Bose kicks ass.
herkalees
QUOTE(nismo @ Sep 21 2004, 04:08 PM)
QUOTE(herkalees @ Sep 20 2004, 07:06 PM)
QUOTE(fiber optic @ Sep 20 2004, 05:55 PM)
QUOTE(herkalees @ Sep 20 2004, 12:12 AM)

you might be right, if you also consider that the usually-passive-subwoofer helps too, but do they pump out ALL the sound? No, they lack a shit load of response in the mid range, because essentially, they are a tweeter and a subwoofer combo

This isn't coherent. Could you rephrase it?

Think of piano keys as an example; on one end you have all the low notes, on the other end you have all the high notes, and in the middle, there are the mid-range notes. The small 2" driver is too small to effectively play the musical notes that live in the "mid-range", and the subwoofer is tuned to be exactly that, a subwoofer, so it also doesn't reproduce the "mid-range" well either.

Bose has done a bunch of studies which have let them to believe "most people" don't notice the loss.

F them.

Herculees, I have blown pictures off the walls (well not blown, but rattled) with the system, and i friggin love it. Why all the probs with bose? They can make a 2 in 1 tweeter, if it sounds better, i dont give a shit. We spent well enough on both the systems, and the only other we would think of getting are Nakimichi. Bose kicks ass.

Ok.
goldenjackal
Uh, nismo, volume != quality.

Do you think that just because some ricer has a fucking fartcan on his car that will wake you up in the middle of the night necessarily makes him fast?
Boxster17
QUOTE(tune @ Sep 19 2004, 04:56 PM)
WOW these suspensions can actually change the colour of your car!

The reason the cars are different colors is because they're different cars. One obviously has the Bose suspension, while the other is stock...
tune
QUOTE(Boxster17 @ Sep 22 2004, 09:15 AM)
The reason the cars are different colors is because they're different cars. One obviously has the Bose suspension, while the other is stock...

I was joking yeah? I had kinda guessed they'd be different cars. Thanks anyway!
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