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Diesel
JVC's new camcorder. has a 4gb mini hard drive like the mini ipod, and does mpeg2 dvd quality. and.. damnit! it just loooooks awesome.

http://www.victor.co.jp/press/2004/gz-mc100.html

Mellender17
Wow that's cool! I want one, how incredably small is it???
mogulmonster
Do you know if it will make it to the US?
Dylan
Looks awesome. I would love to just sit there just flipping it up and down. But how much video will 4gb hold?
clarkma5
QUOTE(Dylan @ Sep 14 2004, 12:38 PM)
Looks awesome. I would love to just sit there just flipping it up and down. But how much video will 4gb hold?

Raw video takes up about a gig every 20 minutes, I think.

So, about 80 minutes!
Dylan
Eh, that sucks. It would be cool if it had something like a CF card or something.
porschedream
Looks fun.
mogulmonster
QUOTE(Dylan @ Sep 14 2004, 01:43 PM)
Eh, that sucks. It would be cool if it had something like a CF card or something.

If it used microdrives, that would be nice, but CF cards are too small and slow right now for that application.
Dylan
Or just a bigger drive, like the ipod does.
goldenjackal
Actually, I am pretty sure that CF cards have the capabiliy to be MUCH faster than any disk drive.
clarkma5
QUOTE(goldenjackal @ Sep 14 2004, 03:14 PM)
Actually, I am pretty sure that CF cards have the capabiliy to be MUCH faster than any disk drive.

You'd be surprised; they're actually really slow.
goldenjackal
Perhaps I am thinking of solid state harddrives instead. those would rip even the fastest SCSI RAID array to shreds speedwise.
Cyclone
QUOTE(goldenjackal @ Sep 14 2004, 06:14 PM)
Actually, I am pretty sure that CF cards have the capabiliy to be MUCH faster than any disk drive.

CF's are only faster in the sense that they have NO seek time at all. If they started making affordable CF cards with DDR memory, they could potentially be faster.

Also, the camera. For the going rate of that, I'd probably go ahead and get a really nice 2mp minidv camcorder which has a hotshoe so I could use external lights and microphones, and a bunch of extra lenses tongue_orig.gif
Diesel
QUOTE(Cyclone @ Sep 14 2004, 04:00 PM)
CF's are only faster in the sense that they have NO seek time at all. If they started making affordable CF cards with DDR memory, they could potentially be faster.

Also, the camera. For the going rate of that, I'd probably go ahead and get a really nice 2mp minidv camcorder which has a hotshoe so I could use external lights and microphones, and a bunch of extra lenses tongue_orig.gif

can't really use "DDR" memory cuz those need huge amounts of power and they lose their memory once the power is gone. it's good for fast and massive data transfering, but really bad for data storage.
Cyclone
QUOTE(Diesel @ Sep 14 2004, 08:15 PM)
QUOTE(Cyclone @ Sep 14 2004, 04:00 PM)
CF's are only faster in the sense that they have NO seek time at all. If they started making affordable CF cards with DDR memory, they could potentially be faster.

Also, the camera. For the going rate of that, I'd probably go ahead and get a really nice 2mp minidv camcorder which has a hotshoe so I could use external lights and microphones, and a bunch of extra lenses tongue_orig.gif

can't really use "DDR" memory cuz those need huge amounts of power and they lose their memory once the power is gone. it's good for fast and massive data transfering, but really bad for data storage.

DDR ROM maybe, not the RAM chips. But the power would be an issue. As well as cost.
goldenjackal
iirc, you would want the memory to be nonvolitile, a quality which is nonexistant in DDR ram.
Cyclone
QUOTE(goldenjackal @ Sep 14 2004, 10:21 PM)
iirc, you would want the memory to be nonvolitile, a quality which is nonexistant in DDR ram.

Thats why i said ROM! tongue_orig.gif
Dylan
Wha...? DDR? tongue_orig.gif
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