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phantomdesign
I'm making a design for a BMW M3 Bodykit (1999-recent). Before I twist your any direction, I want to hear your opinions/ideas for modifying a BMW M3. Rice/no-rice. Original-lines/replace-lines. Basically whatever you want.
fiber optic
Straight from the factory please! thumbs_up.gif
Lee7
how about a body kit to make other 3's look like the M3?

M3's already look badass from the factory.
clarkma5
Make it look OEM-ish, but slightly more aggressive. Like if BMW made a M3 Sport model (not to be confused with the CSL)
fallon
widebody race kit drool
phantomdesign
Thanks for the replies. I'm trying to keep it clean as possible. It seems people don't really want the M3 to be modified too much, at least in terms of direct style.

Here's a start.
clarkma5
That's a good start thumbs_up.gif
phantomdesign
I’ve got a question for you BMW owners that would consider purchasing this kit if/when it is produced. Input from other people is good of course, but if you own a BMW, please indicate that in your response.

Replacement Parts vs. Add-on-top Parts
In context to the bodykit I am producing, would you rather have a piece to add on-top of a preexisting part or a piece to replace the preexisting part. The body-kit itself would be available in carbon fiber.

A potential client stated that BMW owners would rather have add-on-top parts than replacement parts which seemed strange to me. He also described the installation process of add-on-top parts as you glue/screw the new piece to the preexisting one. He said people would rather have add-on-top because that means they keep the kit with them. To me, this seems strange.

Replacement
Installation: Remove default piece, add new piece.
The default paneling: The default piece remains in perfect condition, and can be stored.
Style: Would allow for more flexibility, and would probably appear cleaner overall.
Weight Would reduce the weight of the car (being carbon fiber)

Add-on top
Installation: Simply screw/glue the new piece on top.
The default paneling: The preexisting piece remains on the car. It may receive damage though in the installation process.
Style: Would be forced to remain within certain constraints.
Weight Would add weight to the car.

In consideration that I would ‘remain true to the default lines and style of the BMW’ (similar to what I have been doing), it seems to me that a replacement part is a much more attractive option unless you are really lazy in which case you wouldn’t MOD your car anyway.

Edit.......

I just motivated myself to update the sideskirt.
http://www.gryphonauto.com/Vehicles/BMW%20...20MOD/Index.htm


Any opinions?
RedLine
Hey Phantom, it's me CarZOne, show them some of your designs....


There are actually people in supercars.net that actually think this guys sucks dry.gif (one of the reasons I left - full of idiots there).... I think he is amazing. He designs super cars and they are beautiful... and generally I think supercars are ugly, so thats a good thing!



Be aware: This guy is good.
fallon
certainly looks promissing
phantomdesign
Carzone/Redline:
Hwy, what’s up? I remember you smile.gif The 1/100,000 people who didn’t jump on the MOB wagon.
Well, that’s why I’m not showing them my stuff anymore. I get flamed to death every time I show something there. They like to worship ‘ferrariking’, and probably feel threatened because of the obvious contrast between what he does and what I do. All I ever really wanted was for people to enjoy my work, nothing more. I guess it’s their problem now, not mine.

Anyway, I do have a lot of other work available on my website: www.GryphonAuto.com and my most recent project (not complete yet) is this one…
http://www.gryphonauto.com/Extra/EnigmaII-026.jpg
http://www.gryphonauto.com/Extra/EnigmaII-027.jpg



FaLLoN
Thanks dude:)



I keep getting a lot of interest in the E36 from many places. I am now thinking I should probably do both. Wouldn’t be that hard for me to do. I’ll finish it up for the E46, then match do it for the E36 also.

I’m going to redo the front bumper, rear bumpers, and sideskirt as a replacement parts. It should look a ton better, plus look like it really belongs on the car. I’ll wait for some more feedback from here and other places before I make any decisions on the current side skirt styling.
phantomdesign
Some quick notes... (sorry if I am repeating anything)
  • I changed my mind about which BMW I'll be doing first. It appears that the E36 is a bigger market, so that is where I'll be starting first. If the E36 kits sell well, I'll also do the kit for the E46, and after that I may start the BMW M5.
  • The front Bumper has been remade. Any feedback would be great, but I’m currently thinking the front bumper is too simple. Also, I’d like some feedback on that horizontal ‘divider’ in intake on the bumper in the middle.
  • I shrunk the sideskirt slightly. I may make it larger again.
  • I’m fairly certain I do have an investor, and I’m very certain that I will be making this kit.
Update…

clarkma5
The little diverter in the center piece is unique...something more like a 911 GT2 than the standard, ever day three-hole bumper. I like the latest iteration. thumbs_up.gif
fallon
thumbs_up.gif
Jarod
Just curious as to what program you're modelling that in? It looks very familiar.
White RSX
reminds me of CAD.

but then again, my experience with CAD was sitting in on a class while i was working on a powerpoint project.
Dario
lookin good thumbs_up.gif
A32
I am taking a CAD class right now and i can do nothing like that. I really like your designs! thumbs_up.gif thumbs_up.gif

QUOTE
I’m currently thinking the front bumper is too simple

sometimes simple is better
ExoticCarSite
QUOTE(FaLLoN @ Oct 25 2003, 08:34 PM)
widebody race kit drool

2002 BMW E46 M3 Widebody

M3 Widebody 1

M3 Widebody 2

M3 Widebody 3
fallon
yes ive seen those pics, i want that car hardcore
clarkma5
That M3 looks good, I'd save the lids though.
Lee7
QUOTE(Xenocyde @ Dec 15 2003, 09:52 PM)
reminds me of CAD.

but then again, my experience with CAD was sitting in on a class while i was working on a powerpoint project.

3DSMax.
zippycut
I think the bottom lip extends a little too far out in front of the car. I'd make it shorter. But other than that, nice work.
MenaceAG
QUOTE(phantomdesign @ Dec 15 2003, 03:04 AM)
Some quick notes... (sorry if I am repeating anything)
  • I changed my mind about which BMW I'll be doing first. It appears that the E36 is a bigger market, so that is where I'll be starting first. If the E36 kits sell well, I'll also do the kit for the E46, and after that I may start the BMW M5.
  • The front Bumper has been remade. Any feedback would be great, but I’m currently thinking the front bumper is too simple. Also, I’d like some feedback on that horizontal ‘divider’ in intake on the bumper in the middle.
  • I shrunk the sideskirt slightly. I may make it larger again.
  • I’m fairly certain I do have an investor, and I’m very certain that I will be making this kit.
Update…


1.) First of all...you have some real skill with that modelling program.
2.) Keep the design simple... the bodykit in the pic i quoted is excellent, because of the fact it is nice and clean and simple. 3 series cars are cleanly designed especially the E46 M3 and you don't want to be juxtaposing the clean lines of the body with the messy lines of a different kind of bumper. if i had an M3 and was in the market for a body kit, something like what you have designed below would be what i would be looking for because it wouldn't ruin the lines of the car, and it would look good.
3.) And you don't really want to make a ricer effect bodykit, Hamann do that already and in my opinion it looks shit on an M3.
4.) If you were designing a rear wing, also keep it simple or don't change it all (for the M3 that is) because again it looks good to begin with so don't go messing with a good thing. smile.gif
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