So I just had a semi-random thought. There are engines that are great motors for a variety of reasons...for their immense performance potential, for their glorious noise, for their engineering ingenuity, or what have you. So I got to thinking...what would people consider their five favorite motors? I'm thinking in terms of overall character, performance, sound, and so on, but I guess the criteria is up to you.
Off the top of my head, five favorites in no particular order:
Ford Modular V8 Honda B18C Porsche Flat-6 (I know there's been a million of 'em) Audi 4.2 V8 Honda NSX V6
Maybe if we get a few common picks we can put up a favorite engines poll or something, I dunno. Discuss, debate, and pontificate!
darinzon
Mar 15 2009, 09:01 PM
cosworth dfv
Bjorn
Mar 16 2009, 01:51 AM
I'm not sure the model designation for a lot of these...
Porsche flat six definitely.
Mazda Rotary (12a, 13b...). Hugely flawed to be sure, but they do offer a certain character I have not found in another engine.
BMW inline sixes (like the flat six there have been many).
S2000 Inline 4.
and this is a throw away since I was stuck, Subaru Flat four.
hexagone
Mar 16 2009, 03:42 AM
Clark,
isn't the NSX v6 more or less the same v6 that has been finding itself in most honda applications, but somewhat tuned?
moe
Mar 16 2009, 04:09 AM
in no particular order: - porsche flat six - chevy's ls engine (particularly the ls9 and ls7.r) - mazda's r26b - vq35de - honda f20c
My choices are based on part fanboy-ism, part real life exposure..
Nissan RB series (RB25, RB26, Neo, etc) Nissan SR series (namely SR20DET) Honda B Series (B18C, B16A, etc) GM LS V8 Toyota 4AG
Honorable mentions: Toyota 1JZ/2JZ Toyota 3S-GTE Mitsubishi 4G63 Subaru EJ Series (EJ20, EJ22, EJ25, etc)
Jeez, I guess I like Japanese engines.
dukenukem
Mar 16 2009, 10:05 AM
In no particular order: GM LSx Ford Modular V8 Mitsubishi 4g63T Subaru EJ207/WJ257 Honda B18C
A very close contender with the Honda is the Mazda's 3 rotor 20B engines. Theres also the 1JZ/2 JZ RB26s
Aircooled
Mar 16 2009, 10:44 AM
SBC - A classic and has the largest production number of any engine I believe VW/Porsche Flat 4 and 6 cyl(Porsche Only) both water(Porsche Only) and aircooled - Excellent engines BMW N54 - Superb motor, has won awards every year since it has been introduced IIRC The Wankel- Awesome Design The Veyron's 16.4 The amount of engineering that went into the Veyron's powertrain is staggering, truly an epic engine
and many more. It is hard to nail down 5 excellent engines when there have been so many companies going at it for almost a century(some over a century)
clarkma5
Mar 16 2009, 01:21 PM
QUOTE(hexagone @ Mar 16 2009, 04:42 AM)
Clark,
isn't the NSX v6 more or less the same v6 that has been finding itself in most honda applications, but somewhat tuned?
Nope, the NSX uses the C-series V6. There were C-series V6s in various boring Hondas (94-97 Accord, older 3.5RLs, etc.) but they were all SOHC, the NSX is the only car to get a DOHC valvetrain. Everything else is J-series and there isn't a single performance version of the J-series V6s out there (unless you count the handful of Type-S motors, but those are still pretty mild).
Honda fanboys (remember DZ302?) love to claim that their V6 is like an NSX's...but no, there's very little commonality with the C-series motors (my mom had the 2.7 liter C27A and that was a dull, crap engine) and just none at all with the J-series motors in newer Accords, TLs/RLs, Ridgeline, Pilot, etc.
4wheelfreak
Mar 16 2009, 01:52 PM
BMW 5.0L V10 FTW!!!
fiber optic
Mar 17 2009, 06:13 AM
Ford Modular V8: Half of the cars I own have one, smooth operation, great power, and reliable VW aircooled flat-4: An absolute engineering marvel, highly modifiable, unique sound Powerstroke Diesel SBC
My fifth spot is reserved until the introduction of the Ecoboost motors.
hybr1d
Mar 18 2009, 12:09 AM
Porsche flat 6 Honda F20C Honda K20A (a must on this list!) Toyota 1/2JZ
I would also add bmw 3.0TT engines (in all x35 models). huge potential in this one.
Easton
Mar 18 2009, 01:54 AM
YAY for the B18C!
Stick that in an Exige with a supercharger
MustangAficionado
Mar 18 2009, 10:22 AM
QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Mar 15 2009, 08:53 PM)
Ford Modular V8
QUOTE(dukenukem @ Mar 16 2009, 10:05 AM)
Ford Modular V8
QUOTE(fiber optic @ Mar 17 2009, 06:13 AM)
Ford Modular V8: Half of the cars I own have one, smooth operation, great power, and reliable
Can we make babies?
I actually agree with 90% of those listed in this thread.
Mine: 7MGTE/1JZ/2JZ - f'n stout engines that like to be abused. Even when they go bad, can basically run like a two stroke for 80kmiles with just the turbo feeling the pain. Love teh boost.
GM LSx - I dunno how they do it. I dunno WHY they do it. But they do it, and that's what matters.
Modular V8 - Wanna turn a 2V into a 3V? A 3V into a 4V? A 2V into a 4v? What kind of 4V? B head/C head/Tumbler port/Ford GT heads? Iron or aluminum block? Teksid made? Romeo? WAP? No problem - they all fit on eachother. Only mass problem that's been shown is 96-98 plastic coolant cross over crack which are replaced by ford for free (until a couples years ago). Not huge power makers, don't love N/A tuning in the sense that most V8's do. But throw some PSI it's way and you'd think it was made for this purpose. Parts as cheap as 5.0 parts now, with the tunability of OBDII and effciency of OHC. Also there's more forced induction systems made for this platform than exhaust systems now.
Toyota 20R and variants - will last you 300k miles not problem, if something goes wrong a rebuild is $380 with machining labor. Somehow these take the abuse of a load bed all day with basically no power. Props.
Audi 4.2 FSI - Power is everywhere,c omes on smoothe and still growls at you. Grat platform, if it was more economical they should put it into everything.
Honorable: E46's I-6 and BMW's current TT6 - they should have kept with the I6 M3 and just made a lighter platform. The TT6 is a great engine for the modern era guy who likes to tinker/pay someone to tinker on their car. Turbo's provide a grocery list of power options.
Benny
Mar 20 2009, 07:53 AM
1. Toyota 1UZFE 4.0l, DOHC 32v V8- smooth, efficient, bulletproof,powerful and can be shoved into most small cars and can accept the Supra 6-speed
2. Ford modular V8- duh? 3. Honda B-series engines- Vtech has an intoxicating crossover 4. BMW 5.0l V10 from M5/M6 5. anything Ferrari
Ford Modular V8 Porsche's Flat 6 Ferrari's V12 Bugatti Veyron's 16.4 The Chevy LS series
midnightdorifto
Apr 9 2009, 05:07 PM
GM LSx. If you don't have this in your list, I suggest you delete your account. Ford Modular V8. No brainer. Mitsubishi 4G63. Bloody bulletproof. Toyota 4AGE. Sentimental favorite. Because no one sleeps in Tokyo, and I dance around the world, that crazy Bunta and all that... Tie between the 2JZ-GTE and the RB26DETT, no difference between the two - incredible motors. No questions asked.