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nismo


HOLY SHIT.

How she usually looks...
Mitlov
Watch as people make nothing but approving or joking comments. Because, as we all know, thinking that domestic violence is no laughing matter = failing at the internet.

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clarkma5
QUOTE(Mitlov @ Feb 20 2009, 01:59 PM) *
Watch as people make nothing but approving or joking comments. Because, as we all know, thinking that domestic violence is no laughing matter = failing at the internet.

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...you mean like "I'd hit that"?
Razor
I'd hit that.


...


But honestly... Chris Brown should be locked up like the animal he is.
Vadvagool
QUOTE(Razor @ Feb 20 2009, 02:30 PM) *
But honestly... Chris Brown should be locked up like the animal he is.


Everyone always thought he was the good guy.

Guess not?
Razor
QUOTE(Vadvagool @ Feb 20 2009, 06:12 PM) *
Everyone always thought he was the good guy.

Guess not?


No "good guy" would ever go as far as he did in beating the shit out of his defenseless girlfriend.
duality
despicable.
mung35
Rumor has it she gave him an STD she got from Diddy?
Mitlov
Haven't heard anything like that. From what I heard, she was arguing with him because she thought he was flirting with another girl at a party. The argument escalated and she threw the keys to his Lambo out the window of the car. He ran out to the gutter but couldn't find them. He returned to the car, beat and choked her senseless and to the point of unconsciousness, and left her lying in the street.
nismo
the std rumor is not true, what mitlov said was basically what was confirmed by "sources"
Razor
QUOTE(Mitlov @ Feb 20 2009, 06:49 PM) *
Haven't heard anything like that. From what I heard, she was arguing with him because she thought he was flirting with another girl at a party. The argument escalated and she threw the keys to his Lambo out the window of the car. He ran out to the gutter but couldn't find them. He returned to the car, beat and choked her senseless and to the point of unconsciousness, and left her lying in the street.


I rest my case. Put him in a cage.
nismo
QUOTE(Razor @ Feb 20 2009, 07:07 PM) *
I rest my case. Set him on fire.


Fixed
darinzon
what's so special about this girl? aren't there a lot of people that are victims of domestic violence? you should post them, too
Mitlov
QUOTE(darinzon @ Feb 20 2009, 04:46 PM) *
what's so special about this girl? aren't there a lot of people that are victims of domestic violence? you should post them, too


There's so much atrocity in the world that really, we should never mention anybody specifically, if you want to take that argument to its logical conclusion. Ten thousand people probably died violent deaths in Africa today, why worry about Rihanna's DV, that rapist in Austria who imprisoned his daughter, or 9/11/01 for that matter? They all pale in comparison.

But illogical as it may be, that's not how people work. Folks here already knew who Rihanna was--some of us even listen to her music (though that's probably just Nismo and me), so her abuse has more impact than similar abuse to someone who we had never heard of before.
Razor
QUOTE(nismo @ Feb 20 2009, 07:43 PM) *
Fixed


Agreed.
nismo
QUOTE(Mitlov @ Feb 20 2009, 08:00 PM) *
There's so much atrocity in the world that really, we should never mention anybody specifically, if you want to take that argument to its logical conclusion. Ten thousand people probably died violent deaths in Africa today, why worry about Rihanna's DV, that rapist in Austria who imprisoned his daughter, or 9/11/01 for that matter? They all pale in comparison.

But illogical as it may be, that's not how people work. Folks here already knew who Rihanna was--some of us even listen to her music (though that's probably just Nismo and me), so her abuse has more impact than similar abuse to someone who we had never heard of before.


Not to mention with her status, she can become an awesome advocate against domestic violence, and possibly help others come up front with this.

Then again, it could go the opposite. my really good friend's boyfriend used to lock her in rooms, and beat her, and when this surfaced, she had the same thought as darinzon.
Aircooled
I'd drop a girl like a bad habit if she tossed my lambo keys....
dukenukem
So the guy used his pimp hand. Big deal!












Not. Lets see how tough he is in jail.
nismo
It wasn't even HIS lambo, he rented it for while he was in town!
Mitlov
QUOTE(Aircooled @ Feb 20 2009, 08:45 PM) *
I'd drop a girl like a bad habit if she tossed my lambo keys....


I would too. The line Chris Brown doesn't seem to get is the line between (1) yelling at her and dumping her, and (2) beating her and leaving her lying unconscious in a road.
OHirtenfelder
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I rest my case. Put him in a cage. And then shoot him several times and let him bleed.


Fixed even more.

Fuck that shit. He deserves to be raped up his hip-hop gangster asshole by a big bob or someone of similar size. They should really beat the shit out of him and let him suffer.
I have zero patience for motherfuckers like him. For throwing his keys??? He deserves worse than to be locked up.
And on the point of her becoming an advocate, yeah it seems like a good idea at first, but it will pale into insignificance. Something else is going to happen next week that will make bigger headlines and therefor make this 'less important' and this will fade away. It is a good idea, but I really don't see it getting society anywhere. Best thing to do is take someone like Bitch Brown here (with his status as a celeb) and make a solid example out of him. Throw the book at him in the worst possible way.
Mitlov
QUOTE(OHirtenfelder @ Feb 21 2009, 04:32 AM) *
Fixed even more.

Fuck that shit. He deserves to be raped up his hip-hop gangster asshole by a big bob or someone of similar size. They should really beat the shit out of him and let him suffer.
I have zero patience for motherfuckers like him. For throwing his keys??? He deserves worse than to be locked up.
And on the point of her becoming an advocate, yeah it seems like a good idea at first, but it will pale into insignificance. Something else is going to happen next week that will make bigger headlines and therefor make this 'less important' and this will fade away. It is a good idea, but I really don't see it getting society anywhere. Best thing to do is take someone like Bitch Brown here (with his status as a celeb) and make a solid example out of him. Throw the book at him in the worst possible way.


Even if she doesn't make front-page headlines, she can still be an effective advocate. Think Tori Amos and her work with the Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network, or Sarah McLachlan being a spokesperson for the ASPCA.
MustangAficionado
I broke my jaw in 4 places, got knocked unconscious and had bloody limbs when i woke up without even throwing a punch (or even a shove), it was an argument - like that. Guy who knocked me out I wasn't even arguing with, never met him before. He was a friend of the guy, came up behiind me and knocked me out then proceeded to i guess beat me - I don't remember. The guy got like 2 weeks of community service and 1 year probation, basically a slap on a wrist. Happens to a celebrity girl and the guy deserves to be locked up, shot at until bled to death and lit on fire...

Anyone who knows me knows I'm one for propriety and decency, I'd never think of raising a hand to a woman - but read what you guys are saying, shit. This happens more often than corner store hold ups - grow up guys, we can't just kill em all cuz it's atrocious.
nismo
I'm nt saying things are different because it's Rihanna, I am saying that the public is finally seeing what a beat the fuck up woman looks like. I mean, you always hear about it, but the news stations don't show photos, you usually have to go looking for them. I think she could really help, and she needs to get the fuck away from chris brown. I hope she doesn't accept his apology no matter how much BS he feeds her.
Mitlov
QUOTE(nismo @ Feb 21 2009, 02:27 PM) *
I'm nt saying things are different because it's Rihanna, I am saying that the public is finally seeing what a beat the fuck up woman looks like. I mean, you always hear about it, but the news stations don't show photos, you usually have to go looking for them. I think she could really help, and she needs to get the fuck away from chris brown. I hope she doesn't accept his apology no matter how much BS he feeds her.


Dude, she's in hiding, last time I checked, and fully cooperating with law enforcement. She's not going to be one of these women who keeps going back to the abuser.
Flaw
QUOTE(darinzon @ Feb 20 2009, 06:46 PM) *
what's so special about this girl? aren't there a lot of people that are victims of domestic violence? you should post them, too

There's so much win in just about everything darizon says.
OHirtenfelder
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I broke my jaw in 4 places, got knocked unconscious and had bloody limbs when i woke up without even throwing a punch (or even a shove), it was an argument - like that. Guy who knocked me out I wasn't even arguing with, never met him before. He was a friend of the guy, came up behiind me and knocked me out then proceeded to i guess beat me - I don't remember. The guy got like 2 weeks of community service and 1 year probation, basically a slap on a wrist. Happens to a celebrity girl and the guy deserves to be locked up, shot at until bled to death and lit on fire...

Anyone who knows me knows I'm one for propriety and decency, I'd never think of raising a hand to a woman - but read what you guys are saying, shit. This happens more often than corner store hold ups - grow up guys, we can't just kill em all cuz it's atrocious.


I'm not saying Rhianna is 'special' in any way. She's not. She is just a 'normal' woman, to whom this incredibly bad shit happened. My girlfriend's mother has been beaten up several times (also by a few different men over the years), and I have seen how destructive this shit is first hand. And I don't only mean destructive to the chick that was beaten, but to all the family and friends involved. And I know it happens often, and therefor you say we can't kill 'em all 'cause it's atrocious. You are basically saying that cause it happens so often there's not much that can be done. I'm saying, that I know it happens often and I say fuckin kill them all. Any man who raises his hand to a woman like that deserves a baseball bat in his face and up his nought.
It happens often....punish the fuckers often. Fact of the matter is, this shit happens often, and far too many people get away with it far too easily and often.
nismo
QUOTE(Mitlov @ Feb 21 2009, 05:31 PM) *
Dude, she's in hiding, last time I checked, and fully cooperating with law enforcement. She's not going to be one of these women who keeps going back to the abuser.


Women are fucking dumb.
MustangAficionado
I never said don't punish them because it happens too often, i'm saying you guys all have heavy trigger fingers. You allow the state to kill off that many people, and all it takes is a testimony and some bruises to send a guy (or woman) to the needle, guilty or not. This isn't fucking France and the reign of terror.
I hope those of you with those feelings grow up some before you vote on something like that, or at least are just exaggerating your opinions in order to appear to show your high moral defense of women.
But you don't need to kill men in order to show you have respect for women, jesus christ.
Mitlov
QUOTE(MustangAficionado @ Feb 22 2009, 11:38 AM) *
I never said don't punish them because it happens too often, i'm saying you guys all have heavy trigger fingers. You allow the state to kill off that many people, and all it takes is a testimony and some bruises to send a guy (or woman) to the needle, guilty or not. This isn't fucking France and the reign of terror.
I hope those of you with those feelings grow up some before you vote on something like that, or at least are just exaggerating your opinions in order to appear to show your high moral defense of women.
But you don't need to kill men in order to show you have respect for women, jesus christ.


I think people's views are FAR more moderate in the voting booth than on internet forums. Generally speaking. I took the "kill him" arguments, not as serious policy statements, but just as cathartic venting.
MustangAficionado
Yeah, that's a good point. I guess just being one who's had the shit kicked out of him, i'd find it odd to think the government would have the guy killed on "my behalf" if I was a woman - just because my jaw gets tired from chewing gum now...
Benny
happens worse everyday closer to you than you realize

happens worse everyday closer to you than you realize
Ozi
I was listening to the radio on my way to school this morning and I heard that RIhanna and Chris Brown are getting back together and he allegedly sent a ring and his mom sent a bunch of roses for her 21st birthday. If this is the case, she is one of those girls that keep on chasing bad guys.
darinzon
wouldn't it be funny as hell if they both died in a violent accident?
Mitlov
QUOTE(Ozi @ Feb 24 2009, 05:10 PM) *
I was listening to the radio on my way to school this morning and I heard that RIhanna and Chris Brown are getting back together and he allegedly sent a ring and his mom sent a bunch of roses for her 21st birthday. If this is the case, she is one of those girls that keep on chasing bad guys.


If that's a case, she's not only a dumbass, but a terrible example to victims of DV everywhere. I don't understand going back to someone who beats you.
Razor
QUOTE(Mitlov @ Feb 24 2009, 09:00 PM) *
If that's a case, she's not only a dumbass, but a terrible example to victims of DV everywhere. I don't understand going back to someone who beats you.


In that case, I hope no plastic surgery can fix the scars she got from this.
OHirtenfelder
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In that case, I hope no plastic surgery can fix the scars she got from this.


+1
Aircooled
And they're back together....
moe
Well that's just super. But seriously, people make mistakes sometimes, big ones. If she honestly believes he has the power to change, and she believes in that...more power to her.
Mitlov
QUOTE(moe @ Feb 28 2009, 12:14 PM) *
Well that's just super. But seriously, people make mistakes sometimes, big ones. If she honestly believes he has the power to change, and she believes in that...more power to her.


You can view it that way. Or you can view it as the third stage in the three-stage cycle of domestic violence. That's my gut reaction.

http://www.domesticviolenceroundtable.org/...ence-cycle.html

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In 1979, psychologist Lenore Walker found that many violent relationships follow a common pattern or cycle. The entire cycle may happen in one day or it may take weeks or months. It is different for every relationship and not all relationships follow the cycle—many report a constant stage of siege with little relief.

This cycle has three parts:

(1) Tension building phase—Tension builds over common domestic issues like money, children or jobs. Verbal abuse begins. The victim tries to control the situation by pleasing the abuser, giving in or avoiding the abuse. None of these will stop the violence. Eventually, the tension reaches a boiling point and physical abuse begins.

(2) Acute battering episode—When the tension peaks, the physical violence begins. It is usually triggered by the presence of an external event or by the abuser’s emotional state—but not by the victim’s behavior. This means the start of the battering episode is unpredictable and beyond the victim’s control. However, some experts believe that in some cases victims may unconsciously provoke the abuse so they can release the tension, and move on to the honeymoon phase.

(3) The honeymoon phase—First, the abuser is ashamed of his behavior. He expresses remorse, tries to minimize the abuse and might even blame it on the partner. He may then exhibit loving, kind behavior followed by apologies, generosity and helpfulness. He will genuinely attempt to convince the partner that the abuse will not happen again. This loving and contrite behavior strengthens the bond between the partners and will probably convince the victim, once again, that leaving the relationship is not necessary.

This cycle continues over and over, and may help explain why victims stay in abusive relationships. The abuse may be terrible, but the promises and generosity of the honeymoon phase give the victim the false belief that everything will be all right.


Hope Rihanna enjoys her honeymoon. rolleyes.gif
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