Phix
Aug 8 2008, 06:52 PM
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SEOUL, South Korea — Taking a page from performance giant Porsche, Hyundai said it will offer Brembo brakes as an option on its 2010 Genesis Coupe. The Korean automaker said this is the first Hyundai ever to be fitted with Brembo brakes.
It is yet another step forward for Hyundai, as the company attempts to move away from its value leader image.
The high-performance disc brakes from Brembo will be available as part of an optional track-use performance package on the Genesis Coupe. No word yet on pricing for this option. The Genesis Coupe is set to go on sale in September in Korea, followed by a North American launch in spring 2009.
"By specifying Brembo brakes, we are sending a strong message about the performance capabilities of the Genesis Coupe," said Dr. Hyun-Soon Lee, president of Hyundai's corporate research and development division. "Among car aficionados, Brembo's oversized caliper design is recognized as one of the hallmarks of a high-performance car. They grab attention and will force people to take a second, closer look at the Genesis Coupe."
The Genesis Coupe, Hyundai's rear-wheel-drive sports car, gets an optional performance-tuned 3.8-liter V6 that delivers an estimated 306 horsepower. The base engine is a turbocharged 2.0-liter inline-4 that makes an estimated 212 hp.
What this means to you: Those signature red Brembo brakes telegraph a powerful performance message about Hyundai's intent to improve its stature on the street. — Hoseok Park, Correspondent
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=130446#4...and Hyundai's brand transformation continues.

A pity all the "B-b-b-but it's a Hyundaaaaaai" folks will get left behind.
Benny
Aug 8 2008, 07:33 PM
I like it...?
First time i've said that about a "Hyundai".
johnny.msyl.25
Aug 8 2008, 11:05 PM
Not really a fan of the coupe, but with Brembo brakes it's getting better and better for Hyundai.
clarkma5
Aug 8 2008, 11:48 PM
...lots of cars have Brembos. It's just that they only excessively brand their performance hardware.
"Track-use performance package" sounds awesome. I wonder how track worthy this car will really be, turbo or V6.
I really, really want one of these.
Mitlov
Aug 9 2008, 08:58 AM
The Genesis sedan is extremely good but not exciting. But the Genesis coupe is going to be fucking awesome.
McKhaos
Aug 9 2008, 09:01 AM
This has the potential to be the Korean AE86.
hexagone
Aug 9 2008, 09:08 AM
This could mean anything. Brembo makes some very inexpensive stuff too for regular cars, i.e lots of OEM. Unless youre getting into the BBKs, which this doesn't state specifically- there is no concrete evidence to get excited about.
EDIT:
I do think this is a damn fine looking car, I just have reservations until it's officially out and on sale.
clarkma5
Aug 9 2008, 10:49 AM
QUOTE(hexagone @ Aug 9 2008, 10:08 AM)

This could mean anything. Brembo makes some very inexpensive stuff too for regular cars, i.e lots of OEM. Unless youre getting into the BBKs, which this doesn't state specifically- there is no concrete evidence to get excited about.
Nobody ever markets their plain-jane OEM Brembo equipment as "brembos", I don't think Brembo will let them. This clearly means a high-performance braking package.
RIDEwithG
Aug 9 2008, 11:28 AM
So Hyundai gets Brembo brakes and all of the sudden they are great cars?!? It still a Hyundai, and it doesn't look all that great.
Mitlov
Aug 9 2008, 11:51 AM
QUOTE(RIDEwithG @ Aug 9 2008, 12:28 PM)

So Hyundai gets Brembo brakes and all of the sudden they are great cars?!? It still a Hyundai, and it doesn't look all that great.
Hyundais have been making great non-enthusiast cars for several years now. The Genesis coupe may be their first venture into true enthusiast cars, but the new Elantra, new Sonata, new Santa Fe, Veracruz, and Azera are all highly competitive in their segments.
Hyundai quit being "the brand you buy because you have bad credit" a while ago. Welcome to 2008.
Pics or it didn't happen.
dukenukem
Aug 9 2008, 01:14 PM
QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Aug 9 2008, 01:49 PM)

Nobody ever markets their plain-jane OEM Brembo equipment as "brembos", I don't think Brembo will let them. This clearly means a high-performance braking package.
So would the standard brembo brakes on STI and EVO be the plain-jane ones or the baller ones?
darinzon
Aug 9 2008, 01:14 PM
QUOTE(RIDEwithG @ Aug 9 2008, 03:28 PM)

It still a Hyundai
stop being retarded. now.
Mitlov
Aug 9 2008, 02:02 PM
QUOTE(dukenukem @ Aug 9 2008, 02:14 PM)

So would the standard brembo brakes on STI and EVO be the plain-jane ones or the baller ones?
I thought EVERYTHING associated with the STI was baller?
QUOTE(RIDEwithG @ Aug 9 2008, 10:28 PM)

So Hyundai gets Brembo brakes and all of the sudden they are great cars?!? It still a Hyundai, and it doesn't look all that great.
Coming from the guy that drives a G37. They look a lot alike.
RIDEwithG
Aug 11 2008, 08:32 AM
ROLF. Not quite, but I guess all coupes do have something in come now huh? 2-doors perhaps?

Still, I'm not exactly swayed by Hyundai's being all that most claim it to be...Quality is still an issue in my book. Hence the long warranty.
http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings/quali...atings-by-brandI'll give it another 10 years and re-evaluate.
RIDEwithG
Aug 11 2008, 08:37 AM
QUOTE(darinzon @ Aug 9 2008, 02:14 PM)

stop being retarded. now.
It's called difference in opinion.
Mitlov
Aug 11 2008, 08:52 AM
QUOTE(RIDEwithG @ Aug 11 2008, 09:32 AM)

ROLF. Not quite, but I guess all coupes do have something in come now huh? 2-doors perhaps?

Still, I'm not exactly swayed by Hyundai's being all that most claim it to be...Quality is still an issue in my book. Hence the long warranty.
http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings/quali...atings-by-brandI'll give it another 10 years and re-evaluate.
JD Power is bunk. Consumer Reports has much more meaningful ratings if you're looking for reliability, and magazines like Car, EVO, Automobile, and even Car & Driver have much more meaningful reviews if you're looking for other factors (such as refinement).
You'll notice JD Power gives Subaru a two out of five for "overall mechanical quality." What's that based upon? Subarus, despite their shortcomings, are reliable as anvils!
moe
Aug 11 2008, 09:11 AM
QUOTE(RIDEwithG @ Aug 11 2008, 07:32 PM)

ROLF. Not quite, but I guess all coupes do have something in come now huh? 2-doors perhaps?

Still, I'm not exactly swayed by Hyundai's being all that most claim it to be...Quality is still an issue in my book. Hence the long warranty.
http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings/quali...atings-by-brandI'll give it another 10 years and re-evaluate.
Man I hate that mentality. If my dad, strongly biased against Korean cars, having driven some of their '80s shitboxes, can get over prejudices. Go sit in a new Azera or Genesis and tell me they aren't built better than an Infiniti.
Phix
Aug 11 2008, 09:15 AM
Who cares, moe? It's a Hyundai.
I mean... all you're saying with that rationale is that you're paying for the badge; not the car.
infinity
Aug 11 2008, 09:23 AM
I think its more the lifespan, history, and image of the brand rather than the quality. Sure, Hyundai has been making some high-quality, attractive, competitive, affordable cars recently, but they still don't have the company/name lifespan, history, or image as a brand such as BMW.
moe
Aug 11 2008, 09:26 AM
No, I'm just annoyed with, "It's poorly built and ugly because it's a Hyundai."
And I love BMW.
RIDEwithG
Aug 11 2008, 10:23 AM
QUOTE(moethepaki @ Aug 11 2008, 10:11 AM)

Man I hate that mentality. If my dad, strongly biased against Korean cars, having driven some of their '80s shitboxes, can get over prejudices. Go sit in a new Azera or Genesis and tell me they aren't built better than an Infiniti.
Preference is not necessarily being biased. I've seen my share of Hyundais, and I can safely say that you don't go from one of the bottom dwellers to top of the list in less than 10 years. I'm not narrow-minded enough to think that they aren't making strides, but I personally err on the side of caution. I don't think the Hyundai makes better cars than Infiniti, nor do I think Nissan makes cars better than Toyota or Honda for that matter. The Sonatas are a step in the right direction, however, one car does not make a brand, definitely does not erase the fact the majority of their line up is mediocre. You may not like the way I feel about Hyundai's in general, but I still think the jury is still out on the Genesis. It will take some years for the general public (and myself) to warm up to them. I'm just not so easily swayed like some of you. I used to feel the same way about Nissan back in the late 80, but now I'm driving a one. Maybe 8-10 yrs from now I'll be cruising in a Hyundai...but until then, it's still a Hyundai in my book, so I'll let you Hyundai fans fund their R&D projects

BTW, for those who don't like JD Power, Consumer Reports ranks them 15th overall, somewhere in the 3/5 rating.
moe
Aug 11 2008, 10:49 AM
All your views seem to be based on perceptions of the brand, not actually sitting in a car, that's what trouble me. And I'm not a Hyundai fan...
RIDEwithG
Aug 11 2008, 11:09 AM
QUOTE(moethepaki @ Aug 11 2008, 11:49 AM)

All your views seem to be based on perceptions of the brand, not actually sitting in a car, that's what trouble me. And I'm not a Hyundai fan...
And how would you know that? You actually follow me around when I survey Hyundais?

My perception is definitely based on the overall cars in that brand's lineup. Like I said, one car doesn't make a brand. I'm not going to forget the garbage a mfg puts out just because their new model looks luxurious and well-built. Time will determine whether this car is a quality ride or not. And I'm not biased just because I disagree with you.
moe
Aug 11 2008, 12:19 PM
Honestly when's the last time Hyundai put out a genuinely garbage car? Their shitty cars are honestly a thing of the past. It's also not about one car, throughout the range, Hyundai's are well-built and class competitive. And I honestly can't believe I'm defending Hyundai this much, fuck you Phix.
Mitlov
Aug 11 2008, 12:22 PM
QUOTE(moethepaki @ Aug 11 2008, 01:19 PM)

Honestly when's the last time Hyundai put out a genuinely garbage car? Their shitty cars are honestly a thing of the past. It's also not about one car, throughout the range, Hyundai's are well-built and class competitive.
Agreed.
Hyundai Accent -- meh.
Hyundai Elantra -- competitive.
Hyundai Sonata -- competitive.
Hyundai Azera -- competitive.
Hyundai Tiburon -- meh, but discontinued.
Hyundai Genesis Sedan -- competitive, we just don't know with what.
Hyundai Tucson -- meh.
Hyundai Santa Fe -- competitive.
Hyundai Veracruz -- competitive.
Hyundai Entourage -- competitive.
Looks pretty good to me.
Phix
Aug 11 2008, 12:27 PM
QUOTE(moethepaki @ Aug 11 2008, 04:19 PM)

Honestly when's the last time Hyundai put out a genuinely garbage car? Their shitty cars are honestly a thing of the past. It's also not about one car, throughout the range, Hyundai's are well-built and class competitive. And I honestly can't believe I'm defending Hyundai this much, fuck you Phix.
moe
Aug 11 2008, 12:32 PM
Accent is the only truly weak spot in the range for me, and it still isn't the worst car in its class (that would be the Aveo). The Tuscon was pretty competitive at launch, it's a bit long in the tooth now. The Tiburon doesn't really have peers IMO (the tC maybe, the Civic coupe...no), and I think it's a pretty nice car for the enthusiast on a budget. Clarkma and I are in strong agreement about the Tiburon, being a much nicer car to drive than a spec sheet would lead you to believe.
Phix
Aug 11 2008, 12:35 PM
Is it pronounced 'Hun-day' or 'Hun-die'?
moe
Aug 11 2008, 12:36 PM
I say Hyunday.
Mitlov
Aug 11 2008, 12:50 PM
QUOTE(Phix @ Aug 11 2008, 01:35 PM)

Is it pronounced 'Hun-day' or 'Hun-die'?
My wife used to work as a security guard at the Hynix plant in Eugene, OR (Hynix is a semiconductor company which was at one time owned by Hyundai, or was somehow connected with Hyundai). The Eugene factory had a bunch of South Korean nationals as managers. My wife says "hYOON-die," so until a Korean tells me otherwise, that's how I pronounce it.
Bjorn
Aug 11 2008, 02:07 PM
^ya, Hi-yun-dye is how I say it...
dukenukem
Aug 11 2008, 02:52 PM
Does "puppy eaters" count?
clarkma5
Aug 11 2008, 03:26 PM
I say Hun-die (with a touch of mostly-silent "y" sound after the H) but acknowledge that hYOON-die is the appopriate pronunciation. I'm just too lazy to put that much effort into saying it out loud.
moe
Aug 23 2008, 04:18 PM


Wow. Just wow. That is gorgeous, and I swear to God, if it's a half decent drive, it'll be my next car.
goota
Aug 23 2008, 04:20 PM
that looks REALLY nice! im pretty impressed, they could take a little chrome out of those taillights though.
edit: do we know how much it will weigh yet?
MustangAficionado
Aug 23 2008, 06:14 PM
QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Aug 9 2008, 11:49 AM)

Nobody ever markets their plain-jane OEM Brembo equipment as "brembos", I don't think Brembo will let them. This clearly means a high-performance braking package.
I have to agree. 03 Cobra's basically got exact Bear 13" brakes - but they say Cobra on them and apparently Bear has nothing to do with them. However, the rods the Cobra uses actually say "Manley" on the H-beams as Manley was the only company that could fill their small of an order and still be on time. Which is saying a lot considering most companies pay about $7 a rod while Ford paid around $27 in order to have top notch internals.
eraser_rx
Aug 24 2008, 01:49 AM
QUOTE(Mitlov @ Aug 11 2008, 12:22 PM)

Agreed.
Hyundai Accent -- meh.
Hyundai Elantra -- competitive.
Hyundai Sonata -- competitive.
Hyundai Azera -- competitive.
Hyundai Tiburon -- meh, but discontinued.
Hyundai Genesis Sedan -- competitive, we just don't know with what.
Hyundai Tucson -- meh.
Hyundai Santa Fe -- competitive.
Hyundai Veracruz -- competitive.
Hyundai Entourage -- competitive.
Looks pretty good to me.
actually.....there is a lot of accent around.....especially in my poor neighborhood
Phix
Aug 25 2008, 09:12 AM
Actually, a shit load of Accents are popping up here, too. A lot of dealerships usually have an insane deal like a brand new Accent for under $10k. And it comes with the standard Hyundai bumper-to-bumper 5-yr/100,000km warranty so it's one hell of a buy.
Bjorn
Aug 25 2008, 11:41 AM
If you read the fine print though the <$10K deal is only if you buy the car outright (or I guess if you arrange private finance). At least that's how it works in my neck of the woods. Still, that's a pretty good deal for a form of basic transportation, and a lot better than the other options at that price point (i.e. Wave)
moe
Aug 25 2008, 01:09 PM
^ Trust me, I've driven some rentals...the Accent is a helluva lot better than a Wave/Aveo.
goota
Aug 26 2008, 08:11 AM
I think this will be my next car.
Razor
Sep 6 2008, 09:07 AM
Wow... I love this thing. I need to drive it.
Frederf
Sep 6 2008, 10:46 AM
QUOTE(RIDEwithG @ Aug 11 2008, 11:23 AM)

I can safely say that you don't go from one of the bottom dwellers to top of the list in less than 10 years.
No you can't safely say. Also Consumer Reports is based more on brand loyalty and prevailing public opinion more than anything logical.
Also I think "who cares" about the
optional Brembo brake kit. Anyone can go out and install an optional brake kit from Brembo for their car. No one's going to get this option.
Razor
Sep 6 2008, 10:53 AM
QUOTE(Frederf @ Sep 6 2008, 02:46 PM)

No you can't safely say. Also Consumer Reports is based more on brand loyalty and prevailing public opinion more than anything logical.
Also I think "who cares" about the optional Brembo brake kit. Anyone can go out and install an optional brake kit from Brembo for their car. No one's going to get this option.
If I got one, I would. That's a very narrow-minded thing to say... especially considering it's part of a package. Anyone can install one? I'm pretty sure it'd be cheaper to get it with this package than to buy the kit and pay someone to install it.
fiber optic
Sep 6 2008, 11:13 AM
QUOTE(Razor @ Sep 6 2008, 01:53 PM)

If I got one, I would. That's a very narrow-minded thing to say... especially considering it's part of a package. Anyone can install one? I'm pretty sure it'd be cheaper to get it with this package than to buy the kit and pay someone to install it.
It really depends. Included with the car means you can negotiate the price, include it in your financing, and not have to install it. I don't think you can get any of those with an aftermarket kit.
Razor
Sep 6 2008, 11:37 AM
QUOTE(fiber optic @ Sep 6 2008, 03:13 PM)

It really depends. Included with the car means you can negotiate the price, include it in your financing, and not have to install it. I don't think you can get any of those with an aftermarket kit.
Uh... that's basically what I said?
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