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charles
Hello everyone. Just picked up my first car yesterday. It's a 2002 Chrysler 300M Special. Black on black. Everything stock...for now firedevil.gif



clarkma5
Welcome aboard. Congrats on owning one of the best American cars of its era, they really were underrated.
Mitlov
That's a pretty awesome first car. What modifications are you planning?
charles
QUOTE(clarkma5 @ Jun 5 2008, 05:43 PM) *
Welcome aboard. Congrats on owning one of the best American cars of its era, they really were underrated.


Thanks smile.gif

QUOTE(Mitlov @ Jun 5 2008, 05:55 PM) *
That's a pretty awesome first car. What modifications are you planning?



Thanks smile.gif In the near future, a FIPK from K&N and a small powered subwoofer to compliment the 11 speaker Infinity stereo system already in the car.

In the long run? Probably just lowering springs. I did a quick photoshop and it looks super sexy with the wheels filling the wheel wells biggrin.gif Might get a chip from Kenne Bell as well.
Asher
You should have gotten the Saab. wink.gif

(And take off that wind blocker, for God's sake.)
Dr. Strangelove
I wouldn't waste any money on the FIPK. In my experience, throwing on a conic style filter will give you what you want. WAI will give you the sound plus the illusion that you are gaining some HP. A CAI will do the same, but a little bit more so.

Don't believe any dyno charts that claim 15HP from an intake on a car that isn't turbo or supercharged.

IMHO, put something on that will give you the sound you are looking for and spend the rest on an alignment for after you get those springs.

Congrats on the first car, you will remember it for the rest of your life.
charles
QUOTE(Asher @ Jun 5 2008, 11:05 PM) *
You should have gotten the Saab. wink.gif

(And take off that wind blocker, for God's sake.)


I never looked at a Saab. I looked at a Volva S70 though. biggrin.gif

And I like my wind buffer dammit!

QUOTE(Dr. Strangelove @ Jun 6 2008, 01:32 AM) *
I wouldn't waste any money on the FIPK. In my experience, throwing on a conic style filter will give you what you want. WAI will give you the sound plus the illusion that you are gaining some HP. A CAI will do the same, but a little bit more so.

Don't believe any dyno charts that claim 15HP from an intake on a car that isn't turbo or supercharged.

IMHO, put something on that will give you the sound you are looking for and spend the rest on an alignment for after you get those springs.

Congrats on the first car, you will remember it for the rest of your life.



Really? The only reason I mentioned an FIPK is because I havn't seen a CAI kit for my car. Got a link to one? Also, what is a WAI? [/noob]

And thanks smile.gif
moethepaki
That is a damned nice first car. Congrats.
Dr. Strangelove
WAI is a warm air intake. It pretty much just a conic air filter sitting where your air box once was. This is the setup I have on my car.

Here is a link to an ebay item like what i am talking about:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-04-INTRE...sspagenameZWDVW

If you aren't comfortable with spending so little money on it, buy the tube in that kit and buy a name brand filter from your favorite company.

Honestly, I've seen so many people spend $300 and up on an intake, and when it comes down to it, you can't really feel the 3-6 HP gains that you will get from a name brand CAI. You can get the same 'butt dyno' feeling from spending $15-$40. Unless you are a competitive racer looking for that extra .0001 I would go with the WAI. Spend that money on another mod, you will be happier in the long run.
charles
QUOTE(Dr. Strangelove @ Jun 6 2008, 10:40 AM) *
WAI is a warm air intake. It pretty much just a conic air filter sitting where your air box once was. This is the setup I have on my car.

Here is a link to an ebay item like what i am talking about:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/93-04-INTRE...sspagenameZWDVW

If you aren't comfortable with spending so little money on it, buy the tube in that kit and buy a name brand filter from your favorite company.

Honestly, I've seen so many people spend $300 and up on an intake, and when it comes down to it, you can't really feel the 3-6 HP gains that you will get from a name brand CAI. You can get the same 'butt dyno' feeling from spending $15-$40. Unless you are a competitive racer looking for that extra .0001 I would go with the WAI. Spend that money on another mod, you will be happier in the long run.



Ah, cool. Makes sense I suppose, lol. Thanks for the info. thumbs_up.gif
dukenukem
IS your stock air box that restrictive that you need to change it on an otherwise stock car?

Personally: i would save up and get the handling and braking department looked at first. Just my $.02
charles
QUOTE(dukenukem @ Jun 6 2008, 11:59 AM) *
IS your stock air box that restrictive that you need to change it on an otherwise stock car?

Personally: i would save up and get the handling and braking department looked at first. Just my $.02



It's already got 4 wheel independent suspension and 4 wheel disks. I'm not looking to do a ton of things to the car. Just a little more oomph to get the 3500lb bad boy moving a little quicker.
Mitlov
QUOTE(charles @ Jun 5 2008, 10:46 PM) *
And I like my wind buffer dammit!


When I took the wind buffer off my Civic (my first car and my only one to ever have a wind buffer on the sunroof), I discovered that wind buffeting and wind noise were dramatically decreased. The buffer was causing the problem it was supposed to reduce.
dukenukem
QUOTE(charles @ Jun 6 2008, 11:08 AM) *
It's already got 4 wheel independent suspension and 4 wheel disks. I'm not looking to do a ton of things to the car. Just a little more oomph to get the 3500lb bad boy moving a little quicker.

Hows the body roll? tongue.gif

Anyways .. its your car and you know best what needs upgrading. Good luck and play hard smile.gif
charles
QUOTE(Mitlov @ Jun 6 2008, 12:44 PM) *
When I took the wind buffer off my Civic (my first car and my only one to ever have a wind buffer on the sunroof), I discovered that wind buffeting and wind noise were dramatically decreased. The buffer was causing the problem it was supposed to reduce.



Wow really? I'm not a huge fan of the sunroof anyway. I wouldn't order it on a new car if you wanna put it that way.

The only time the sunroof gets open is if all the other windows are down too so wind noise is the least of my concerne. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(dukenukem @ Jun 6 2008, 03:43 PM) *
Hows the body roll? tongue.gif

Anyways .. its your car and you know best what needs upgrading. Good luck and play hard smile.gif



Surprisingly non existant. Very stable around corners. Not that I've taken any corners at speed though. wink.gif
moethepaki
I'd leave it dead stock. It's the best way to go on any luxury sedan IMO. Enjoy the ride comfort, the premium audio, the cosy leather interior, and just cruise. Don't try to turn it into a sportscar.
clarkma5
QUOTE(moethepaki @ Jun 6 2008, 02:07 PM) *
I'd leave it dead stock. It's the best way to go on any luxury sedan IMO. Enjoy the ride comfort, the premium audio, the cosy leather interior, and just cruise. Don't try to turn it into a sportscar.


The 300M Special was Nurburgring-tuned, ya know...it's a proper sports sedan.

From Edmunds's test of a 2002 300M Special:

QUOTE
We spent a week getting acquainted with the Chrysler 300M Special and came away impressed with the car. Immediately noticeable is the car's harsh ride and the tendency for the giant tires to wander and tramline on grooved pavement. There's also plenty of road rumble evident in the cabin. But the tradeoff in ride comfort and straight-line stability results in dramatic dividends in handling, and the upgraded brakes on this car are fantastic. We managed to stop the Special from 60 mph in just 114 feet. This is almost unheard of for a vehicle of this size. Despite the 300M's girth and 3,650-pound curb weight, this is one genuinely fun sedan to drive on a curvy road. Grip is astonishing, the brakes never fade and are easy to modulate once you acclimate to the sensitive pedal, and the tightened suspension quells body roll nicely. You can pitch this car hard into a turn without fear, and it doesn't push the way most front-drivers do. We wish, however, that the steering wheel offered more feel and less effort to spin.
moethepaki
^ OH wow. That IS impressive. I've only ridden in the stock one, and assumed it was more or less a luxury sedan.
Asher
QUOTE(charles @ Jun 6 2008, 01:46 AM) *
I never looked at a Saab. I looked at a Volva S70 though. biggrin.gif

And I like my wind buffer dammit!


Link's dead, but I suggested one.
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