I'm not debating that Hamilton is a good driver, I think he is an Awesome driver...but I think his driver profile is lacking in some aspects. Mainly how to ignore circumstances and do the best race possible. I think he could have got this kind of experience driving for a team like STR Ferrari or Honda...where he would have had to make the best out of a bad car.

I'm sure there have been tonnes of brilliant drivers drummed out of F1 because they got placed in a middle of the pack or back of the pack team right off the hop, and couldn't just button down and drive to the best of their ability despite the machinery.

Yeah there certainly is an element of luck involved sometimes, in relation to make or break and then there are people like Alonso who made it obvious they were a top driver, with the worst car in the field.

In case I forget to post before the race:

1. Hamilton
2. Raikkonen
3. Heidfeld
4. Alonso
5. Vettel
6. Kubica
7. Webber
8. Kovalainen

here are my pix from qualifying last night...

http://forums.dieselstation.com/index.php?showtopic=25469

1Massa
2Hamilton
3Raikkonen
4Kubica
5Kovalinen
6Alonso
7Vettel
8Heidfeld

Look for an interesting push from Alonso. No doubt he will be taken out of the races in some stupid incident though.

OK, another "I haven't had time to watch qualifying" shot in the dark, which may or may not be updated before the race.

1) Massa
2) Hamilton
3) Raikkonen
4) Alonso
5) Vettel
6) Kovalainen
7) Kubica
8) Trulli

I'm excited to see how this one unfolds.

You know what... Fuck it.

1Massa
2Raikkonen
3Hamilton
4Kubica
5Kovalinen
6Alonso
7Vettel
8Heidfeld

I'm counting on some first corner magic from the Kimster. Don't let me down Kimi!

Hamilton
Raikkonen
Kubica
Massa
Kovalainen
Trulli
Alonso
Glock

If it rains I'm going to be pissed off. Rain was forecast for Friday and Saturday and so far no wet sessions. So I'm going for a dry prediction.

Massa
Hamilton
Raikkonen
Kubica
Heidfeld
Vettel
Kovalainen
Rosberg

1. Massa
2. Raikkonen
3. Hamilton
4. Vettel
5. Kovalainen
6. Kubica
7. Glock
8. Alonso

Hamilton
Massa
Raikonen
Kubica
Vettel
Kovalainen
Heidfeld
Glock

Heidfeld has been penalized for impeding Barichello when he was just following the pit entry zone. I don't know how else he was supposed to do it, but oh well. Final revision:

1Massa
2Raikkonen
3Hamilton
4Kubica
5Kovalinen
6Alonso
7Vettel
8Glock

My DVR quit recording in the middle of he last fucking lap!


But it was a fantastic race! Poor Kimi!

I've missed predictions for the past like...6 races. Damnit. Consider this my withdrawal from the contest.

1 point FTW! Fuck...what a cluster fuck that race was.

Balls, no points - haven't watched the race as yet, been in Dubai.

Dr. Strangelove 33
Lancer007 29
Tune 23
bobo27 23
Uwe 22
Bjorn 20
m_weinerich 17
Marien 16
Davidsen 15
Phix 12
skr 12
infinity395 10
Tirmnyl 4
Neotax 1

1. Hamilton
2. Massa
3. Raikkonen
4. Kovalainen
5. Alonso
6. Kubica
7. Glock
8. Vettel

1Hamilton
2Massa
3Raikkonen
4Alonso
5Kovalinen
6Glock
7Trulli
8Vettel

Hamilton
Raikonen
Alonso
Massa
Kubica
Kovalainen
Trulli
Vettel

1. Raikkonen
2. Hamilton
3. Massa
4. Kubica
5. Alonso
6. Kovalainen
7. Trulli
8. Vettel

Raikkonen
Hamilton
Alonso
Massa
Kovalainen
Kubica
Vettel
Heidfeld

Once again, not having seen qualifying this is a shot in the dark.

1) Massa
2) Raikkonen
3) Hamilton
4) Kubica
5) Alonso
6) Kovalinen
7) Vettel
8) Trulli

For those of you who chose Raikkonen to win, you don't think he would let Massa through? I though his 2010 extension was directly related to his agreeing to do everything in his power to help Massa win the championship.

If i ever choose Raikkonen to win, I'm usually banking on the fact that Massa would make a mistake in the race.

Provisional Results: Fuji Television Japanese Grand Prix

1. Alonso
2. Kubica
3. Raikkonen
4. Piquet
5. Trulli
6. Vettel
7. Massa
8. Webber
9. Heidfeld
10. Bourdais**
11. Rosberg
12. Hamilton
13. Barrichello
14. Button
15. Nakajima


**Official result after 25 second penalty

BIG weekend for Renault! GJ to Toro Rosso too for scoring some good points. Who would have known the midfield would dominate during the last few races of the season.

Edit: nevermind for STR, due to the penalty

A few things were reaffirmed for me in this race:

1: Hamilton is a prick and he drives like one. This race should have been Kimi's. This isn't the first time his overzealous driving caused a ridiculous incident, but the first time he got what was coming to him.
2: Alonso is bar none the best driver on the grid at the moment. Great race from him.
3. Of the three people in world championship contention, Kubica is the only driver who has driven like a world champion. Massa keeps making stupid mistakes as well.
4. With Schumacher gone and Alonso in a really slow car, the lack of great talent at the front of the grid makes for a good show, and sometimes unpredictable results.

Did Bourdais get a penalty for the Massa incident? If so that is bullshit.

Hamilton once again proved that under big pressure he loses his head entirely, something I hope experience will eventually sort out. Dr. S is right, I think Raikkonen would've won this race today had he not been blocked.

Massa's tap on Hamilton wouldn't have been so bad if he'd been on the track, so fair game - but I was disappointed to see the Ferrari pit garage going crazy after it happened, that's not exactly sporting, although we all knew what they were like anyway.

Alonso has done really well, although he has had some luck come his way to reach these victories, once out in front he is untouchable, this season has gone a long way to mend any bad PR gained from last season.

Kubica has done well this season, I wouldn't say he has had many stand out, great races but has been awesomely consistent and as Richard Burns has proved in the past that is a great tactic for success!

Shame the action was pretty much all at the start though.

Low scores again this week.

1 Dr. Strangelove 34
2 Lancer007 29
3 Tune 24
4 bobo27 23
5 Uwe 22
6 Bjorn 20
7 m_weinerich 17
8 Marien 16
9 Davidsen 15
10 Phix 12
= skr 12
12 infinity395 10
13 Tirmnyl 4
14 Neotax 1

I am going to guess with my heart on this one. My rule for Hamilton is to never bet against him when everything is going his way. I can't imagine he will make two gigantic driver errors in two consecutive races.

Odds are, it will be a Schumacher style race for Hamilton. Not because of driver talent, but there will be a decent start from Hamilton,and then a quick slash to let the rest of the grid know who owns this race, then a long boring dominated Hamilton win.

I just wonder about turn one. Massa often gets great starts, and he is on the clean side of the grid. Raikkonen should be running light, and I could see Hamilton folding under pressure with all of that red in his mirrors. But twice in a row? When he has, what seems to be a pretty big advantage?

Turn one, lap one, we'll find out. God this is fucking exciting. I LOVE THIS SPORT! GO MASSA!!!! FORZA FERRARI!!!!

1Massa
2Raikkonen
3Kovalinen
4Alonso
5Hamilton
6Vettel
7Kubica
8Heidfeld

1. Hamilton
2. Kovalainen
3. Alonso
4. Massa
5. Raikkonen
6. Vettel
7. Trulli
8. Kubica

1. Massa
2. Alonso
3. Hamilton
4. Raikkonen
5. Kovalainen
6. Kubica
7. Heidfeld
8. Trulli

Hamilton
Massa
Alonso
Kimi
Vettel
Kubica
Kovalinen
Trulli

Hamilton
Massa
Raikkonen
Alonso
Heidfeld
Kovalainen
Vettel
Kubica

OK, shot in the dark time. Sorry for the names being spelled wrong...don't have time to look up the proper spelling ATM.

1) Massa
2) Raikkonen
3) Kubica
4) Alonso
5) Trulli
6) Webber
7) Rosberg
8) Vettel


Hamilton is gonna pull a China 07 and suck his way into a wall.

A bit precessional, but I'm glad I put my faith in Hamilton for this one! 7 points!

1 Dr. Strangelove 35
2 Tune 31
3 Lancer007 30
4 bobo27 28
5 Uwe 22
6 Bjorn 21
7 m_weinerich 17
8 Marien 16
9 Davidsen 15
= skr 15
11 Phix 12
12 infinity395 10
13 Tirmnyl 4
14 Neotax 1

I knew I shouldn't have screwed around on this one! Nice job Tune! Its coming down to the last race for our championship too.

Fuck, how boring can you get.

I would like to reiterate, these new circuits are boring as shit, and don't hold a candle to Monza or Spa.

I'm not a religious man, but I'm gonna be praying that one of Lewis's connecting rods goes in Brazil. Maybe thinking unhappy thoughts at that engine will cause something to let go.

Whereas I be praying the mysterious engine gremlins of Brazil haunt Massa this year.

I hope Hamilton's engine works fantastic all weekend, and he pushes himself too hard and puts the McLaren into the wall of his own accord. I would ROFL.

Does anyone else actually like Hamilton except me? I know I am biased.

Massa
Raikkonen
Hamilton
Trulli
Alonso
Kovalainen
Vettel
Heidfeld

I'm a fan in a sense that he's a talented driver that will turn into a great driver, perhaps a legend.. The only thing holding him back is lack of experience, and most of the haters hate him because of his cockiness(with the exception of those delusional spaniards, who just hate him for no fair reason).

Edit: Maybe he deserves to win less than some(or most) of the drivers out in that field, but you cannot deny that he's capable of winning races and championships.

Massa
Raikkonen
Hamilton
Kovalainen
Alonso
Trulli
Vettel
Glock

1Massa
2Raikkonen
3Trulli
4 Hamilton
5Alonso
6Kovalinen
7Vettel
8Bourdais

Almost forgot to post here. Our championship will be decided today too. Gotta call Lancer007 and remind him to post.

1. Massa
2. Raikkonen
3. Alonso
4. Trulli
5. Kovalainen
6. Vettel
7. Hamilton
8. Glock

Wow.. talk about throwing a wrench into everything with very last minute rain.

fuck you Timo Glock

LOLOL that's fuckin' sick... title decided right at the last corner by a Toyota.

found this on another forum haha

lol, holy shit that's cold!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

GOO HAMILTON!