Hey, Edmunds wrote something good for a change!

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Featu...eline.promo.3.*

All about TVR's recent history and the Tuscan 2/Sagaris. Tons of pics (not particularly big, unfortunately) and good writing.

TVR is beautiful...if only it was still owned by the british

Eh, but this Russian kid that owns it has the right attitude to run the company, at least when it comes to product...he's obviously faithful to what they've been doing, but being determined to improve build quality. It's not like some multi-national conglomerate bought it, this is a car enthusiast who loves the company for what it's been DOING, not for what it can BECOME.

He's not going to change it much.

TVR's are awesome, but i think that edmunds made a price-conversion error, if its correct that means that clarkson's Ford GT40 costs 134,000pounds, which means around $260,000???

That is how much his car cost...cars are overall much more expensive in Europe than in the US. Most cars cost about 75% more in the UK than here in the U.S. (although it depends on the car).

I mean, consider the VW GTI...it costs 20k pounds...that's nearly $40k! That's just how much cars cost over there.

ok, i was assuming that they have similar budgets compared to the US.

was clarksons GT that much? I have to go back, but I think he was using dollars when he was talking about the price of this GT. I dont think he would pay an aditonal 110,000 pounds when he could buy an american example and bring it over by ship for much much less than 110,000

He wants right hand drive.

And I imagine with all the changes he'd have to make to an american GT, plus fees and all that, that it would not be significantly cheaper to get an LHD one from the US.

I dont think they make a right hand drive GT, that dosent make sence for such a limmited production run...all the ones on the show have been left hand drive

and im sure you can do all of those things (legalize it for britain, pay the taxes etc) for the price of a new DB9 or GT2 on top of the GT.

it started out at 100,000 pounds, then 115,000, then 130,000

you underestimate how much it costs to go through the bureacratic red tape, although you may well be right about the RHD thing.

Anyway, I don't even know how Britain's laws about car importation...it may well be impossible to do!

it costs as much as a whoe new supercar? that seems un-realistic

according to top gear, the GT costs 95,000GBP

(They published a price guide with their last issue for all cars sold in britian)

really, $260,000 is a lot, i dont think that it is the same value-wise over seas. But you could buy a 360CS(which Clarkson proclaimed was Perfect) in the U.S. for $200,000 with LHD. And it comes in europe with RHD which should cost less, but it costs A LOT more somehow... . it costs around 170-180,000 pounds, which should be around $350,000!

bastards

all the hicks(not to be prejudiced ) in this silly country will just take the vette over this

Not stopping me.

ferrari 360 cs 134,000 gbp

they are still butt ugly !

damn.

when did the sagaris get a 4.0L speed six with 406bhp? i thought it was only getting 350bhp like the Tamora and T350C/T

and its built worse than a communist bilt Lada. ...

or the Viper
the Viper is the american equivalent of the TVR

also, I didnt know buying domestic cars automatically made you a hick you stereotyping arrogant chinless freak

A GT costs £125,000 last time I checked, and TVR the last 'great' British car company? What a load of balls! Good article though.

I agree. I don't like the styling of ANY of their cars. They repluse me

True dat . That statement works for communist Dacias too . If you planned to go on a road trip , half your trunk was taken up by spare parts .

Rumor was that the guy who bought them was going to buy MG/Rover

Buying American cars doesn't make you a hick obviously. But alot of how should i say this "agriculturists" and "farmers" and some people really stand buy American cars and nothing else. I've heard of people who will only buy a Dodge, or only buy a Ford etc.

That Smolenski kid ?
Have you seen him ? He looks like he's 12 or 13 years old .

Ah, you're just jealous.

Well , DUH .
His father is a russian gazzilionaire that sent him to the finest british schools and lets him buy car companies .
While my father is a romanian cheapass , i go to university in my home town , still work with my parents and have to work 70 hours a week to pay for the truck .

He's part of my teen world domination plan.

i was being sarcastic, remember the icon.

TVRs dare to be different, does that make them ugly... Your description of TVRs fits very well to what most people said the Ferrari F40 in it's days, now it isn't. TVRs makes anything you park beside it look booring and uninteresting...

no they make is look less ugly and billion times more well built. And for the record, different does not mean beautiful.

Bullshit, minor faults with electronics and fitting of instruments is something you have to count with when you handle (budget) handbuilt cars. Ferraris used to be exactly like that in the days they were hand built too... Mechanically TVRs never fails, their engines are really bullet proof, they have been using the AJP8 engine in the Tuscan racing car for lots of years and never had a single breakdown...

Since when did Italian cars become equal to well built...?

everything else breaks down so finally all you are left with is the engine

If it was as much as even a single unit of objectiveness in that... TVR just outlasted all the Porsches and Ferraris in a race recently. If you doubt it, here's a link... Bad build quality my backside...

TVRs are fucking awesome... and Waters, I think that the Vette is the american TVR, not the Viper...

Well, TVR's are Front Engined RWD cars that are very light. The Vette and the Viper are Front engined and RWD so are like American TVR's. But that is like saying that Saleen is the American Ferrari or Bugatti or Lamborghini

it was a race .... race cars and road cars are not the same.now comparing with italian cars, they may not be honda when it comes to reliability but they are certainly better looking than TVRs.

The T400R racecar is almost exactly the same as the T400/440R roadcar. The only differences is that the racecar has; A wider track, stripped out interior, derestricted inlet, decated straight through exhaust and some minor aerodynamic chenges...

no the Vette is too refined, and reliable
the Viper has the shittiest Interior Ive ever seen on a car more than 50K and it's Savagely fast, like the TVR

looks arent what differentiate between a road car and race car !!!! and anyways you look at it the fact is TVRs are built apaulingly bad ....and as far as the communist comment is concerned, i meant the interior and fit and finish.

refined? i think you got your words mixed up. you were probaly thinking of the word rubbish, or forgot to put an "un" infront of refined



The corvette interior looks like that of a cavalier some kid painted silver and installed an
LCD screen in. it is the opposite of refined, especially when compared to:



this, one of the most beautiful, and modern looking interiors in the world.

refined?? it has leather and plastic interior. The Viper also has a lot plastic and leather(except the plastic is not painted ) The TVR has a lot of different materials, mostly ultra-suede and leather. It is a lot more pleasing to look at.

@leif ... the vette's interior doesnt come flying towards you when accelerate hard or brake ... the TVR's does.

all that silver plastic in the vette looks like garbage, the only thing i like is the HUD.
But the TVR's interior is just what it should be, with only a good sound system to distract you

damn the vette , TVR is a real sport cars company, i love the cerebera , tuscan, tamora . damn they have very good cars.

Read my post again, I pointed the differences out, not just the looks... And, NO... They're not badly made, some of the fittings can be band from time to time, but that's the charm with a handbuilt car, but the mechanics are bullet proof... The interior feels more like it was honed form a solid piece of material, it's a dead and solid noise wherever you tap or touch, it feels crafted rather than cheaply machined...

How can you call a car like the Corvette refined when it takes two hands to move the gearshift (source:Top Gear episode) and you can push the whole back end in with your pinky?

By the way, TVRs are beautiful.